Wednesday, 7 October 2009

UKIP MEETING

Last night, Tuesday, I attended, by invitation, a UKIP meeting........................................
That’s it; I cannot tell you anything about the actual meeting because I was thrown out!
I attended the meeting in Old Colwyn and at the start attendees introduce themselves, I did, as the others and gave my name but then their Political Officer asked “Ex-Councillor John Oddy, ex-BNP Councillor?” I replied, quite honestly “ I sit as an Independent Councillor and yes I am ex-BNP, I resigned from the BNP prior to taking my seat on the Council”.
Their Political Officer then informed the meeting that their NEC had indicated that no BNP members or ex-members were allowed to attend their meetings and that I would have to leave; he then continued to describe the BNP as an odious and racist party and that I had been a major factor in it, he described my writings on here as “Racist ranting”, using his fingers to count with he reeled of a list of known BNP activists who, in the past, had committed crimes and then, mistakenly, linked me to them saying that in my position as NW Wales Organiser I must have associated with them. He continued by saying that the members should read what I write to establish for themselves what a racist I am.
The Chairman said that following the PO’s comment he had no alternative than to follow the NEC directive although because it had been a personal attack on my character he gave me the right of reply; I went through the normal denials of knowing the people he had mentioned, explained that to question open-door immigration was not racism but realism, yes I did and do believe that Islam is a dangerous and archaic religion that presents a threat to our stability, I am a firm believer in the return of the death-penalty, corporal punishment and national service. I concluded by asking had I been an ex-Labour or Conservative member would I have received the same welcome?.
Now to be fair to the UKIP members the majority of them wanted me to stay, there were comments such as “No wonder UKIP never gets anywhere”, “We have a UKIP Councillor in mid-Wales who crossed the floor from the BNP” and one that I had to answer “We want to vote to allow him to stay”, I explained that if it was a NEC directive then the Chairman had no other option than to ask me to leave. The last question was aimed at the PO “Show us where this directive is or tell us what it says” the PO could not answer that and, for once, only mumbled a reply.
As I put my coat on to leave apologies were sent my way and a comment of “How undemocratic” floated across, as I walked out nods and sympathetic smiles followed me, I liked the UKIP members, they were honest, down to earth people. Their PO, however, is a different kettle of fish, I believe he has a deep-rooted hatred of the BNP, his brother, apparently, is a member of the West Wales BNP, only he knows if there is a UKIP NEC directive, only he knows if this was personal, I certainly believe it was, and only he knows whether his attitude was wrong, personal feelings should not stand in the way of a party’s progress. With people like him holding office within UKIP one has to have serious doubts about the party’s future in Wales, truthfully I hope not because UKIP have the ability to be a major challenger to the mainstream parties.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

BETTER TO BE RIGHT AND UNPOPULAR THAN WRONG!!

You are a silly old Tom Noddy , Ukip is a creation of the state i wonder why you dont join LablibCon they are the same. It is a pity you dont study history and politics proper, Every right thinking person agrees with you so fight with the BNP thats are only hope.

(This might cheer you up the "KING of SCOTLAND" speaks)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvkUHWIbebQ&feature=

Anonymous said...

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it." - Lenin

Anonymous said...

They are however trying to appeal to the genuine nationalists within UKIP, who have been conned into supporting a phony nationalist party.

UKIP will NEVER get Britain out of the EU or tackle the mass immigration crisis. It's whole purpose is simply to split the nationalist vote.

Why do you think the extremist left-wing groups don't target UKIP?....

Carneades said...

I find it interesting that UKIP ban ex-BNP members from their ranks. I wonder if they impose the same terms on any else?

Anonymous said...

Democracy is NOT getting off your butt to go and vote for your preferred candidate.
Democracy is getting intimately involved in the process that chooses who that candidate will be.
If this is not happening in Western countries that call themselves democracies, are they true democracies?
The downside of a democracy in contrast to a dictatorship is that we need to devote a lot of our spare time to attend meetings of our preferred political party.
Otherwise it can get hijacked by minority groups and if not enough people from all walks of life are prepared to devote their lives to polital affairs there are not enough members of a sufficiently high callibre to choose our candidate from.

Anonymous said...

Diasgracful behaviour.
To be invited to this meeting then sujected to that is wrong.

Councillor John Oddy said...

Anon 14.26,
I didn’t go to the meeting to join UKIP, I am interested in their manifesto, in particular their tightening of the immigration law and a five year cap on immigration itself. I went along to gain some knowledge of them and how they work, which is what I did before joining the BNP. I may be tempted to join them, if I’m allowed, but, like anything, you learn about it before making a decision.

Carneades,
That was the question I left them with when I asked would an ex-Conservative have had the same welcome.

Anon 20.53,
I do not hold what happened to me against the Branch or its members, if it is a NEC directive then the Branch had no other choice than to follow it. The directive was brought to the attention of the meeting by their Political Officer, he, however, did seem to have a personal grudge against me and kept referring to my “Racist ranting” that I write, presumably, on here. When asked by a member for the wording of the directive he could not remember it and mumbled a reply about having read it somewhere.
Since the meeting I have been informed that the Chairman has wrote to their NEC for confirmation of the directive and to ask advice in regards to the situation. I can only hope that once he receives his reply someone will be decent enough to relay it to me.

Anonymous said...

Any political Party that denys we are being colonized is not being realistic, regardless of weak bleats of limiting so called immigration like UKIP . Granted UKIP does have some genuine supporters who I am afraid are misguided and unwittingly proping up a red herring who would do nothing to stop this country being colonized. Just reading the short history of their MEP's they have already proven that they are worse than any of the MP's in this country when it come to noses in the trough. They are without doubt an establishment party created to steal BNP votes through false
respectability.
J.J.

Anonymous said...

I suggest that British democracy is something of a joke? Some sort of feudal system may still be in place? One of the main problems, in Britian in particular, is the manipulation of the minds of the voters (UKIP was presented by the media as a Party of 'change', rather than as the reprersentative of one faction of the elite.)

Owen Williams.

Anonymous said...

ex bnp members are allowed to join UKIP. Who is this PO ?

Councillor John Oddy said...

Anon 12.57,
I am not prepared to publically name the gentleman, if you are a genuine poster with a genuine interest then you can email me.....
cllr.johnoddy@yahoo.co.uk